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their entire indictment of barack obama is, he's mean! that's pathetic. >> right. >> are you serious? >> yes, she is serious, ron. we just saw one of our fellow conservatives talking about the president's plan to outlaw fox news. actually all the president pointed out and i'm quoting was that if a republican member of congress is not punished by fox news or by rush limbaugh for working with a democrat on a bill of common interest, then you'll see more of them doing it. which i don't know, ron, sounds pretty obvious to me, but are you also losing sleep at night because you're afraid the president wants to take away your fox news and your guns? >> you know, i'm very happy to come on msnbc and say thank god for fox news. the fact of the matter is without fox news we'd still think that benghazi, that that attack, that terrorist attack happened because of a video. without katherine and special report and the hard news people. by the way, they have more hard news people than msnbc, cnn, and everybody else -- >> sorry, ron, ron, ron, i accept yo
their entire indictment of barack obama is, he's mean! that's pathetic. >> right. >> are you serious? >> yes, she is serious, ron. we just saw one of our fellow conservatives talking about the president's plan to outlaw fox news. actually all the president pointed out and i'm quoting was that if a republican member of congress is not punished by fox news or by rush limbaugh for working with a democrat on a bill of common interest, then you'll see more of them doing it. which i...
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because that's where in politics a lot of times the real bitterness lingers. and, you know, bill clinton has had a harder time forgiving the president than hillary clinton has. and michelle obama i think has had a harder time burying the hatchet than president obama has. this was a very tough race in 2008. but what is interesting is that they seem to have some chemistry in that interview. it wasn't a kind of formal stiff -- >> it was pretty smooth, pretty natural. >> they had a connection with each other that was important for the country to see. >> all right, jonathan alter, great to have you with us. thank you so much. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. and rachel maddow of "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> good evening, and thank you. >> you bet. >> thanks to you at home for staying with us this hour. the 50th state in the united states is of course hawaii. 49th state admitted the year before, alaska. so those were 49 and 50. those are the last two states admitted to the union in 1958 and 1959. what was the last state admitted before then? be
because that's where in politics a lot of times the real bitterness lingers. and, you know, bill clinton has had a harder time forgiving the president than hillary clinton has. and michelle obama i think has had a harder time burying the hatchet than president obama has. this was a very tough race in 2008. but what is interesting is that they seem to have some chemistry in that interview. it wasn't a kind of formal stiff -- >> it was pretty smooth, pretty natural. >> they had a...
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. >> there are few things historically speaking that are seen as bigger political lifts in washington than immigration reform or than gun reform. but just eight days into this second term, the obama administration is working actively to accomplish both of these things simultaneously. today president obama and vice president biden met with police chiefs and local sheriffs from around the country, including police chiefs from newtown, connecticut, aurora, colorado, and oak creek, wisconsin, all of which have endured major mass shootings just within the past six months. vice president biden also held a roundtable discussion on gun reform in richmond, virginia on friday. he had the homeland secretary and health secretary with him there. president obama himself made a high profile reference to gun reform in his inauguration speech last week. other cabinet members, including the attorney general, have been making their own news on moving forward on gun reform, mental health reform, background checks. the administration, in other words, doing everything they can to not only move on this, but
. >> there are few things historically speaking that are seen as bigger political lifts in washington than immigration reform or than gun reform. but just eight days into this second term, the obama administration is working actively to accomplish both of these things simultaneously. today president obama and vice president biden met with police chiefs and local sheriffs from around the country, including police chiefs from newtown, connecticut, aurora, colorado, and oak creek, wisconsin,...
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as far as obama wanting to pass it i'm curious bit. for four years he didn't raise a finger on this and in 2007 he help that had fragile bill at the time. >> bill: right. >> the preacher of the polls he didn't have to run again. fox news poll, 66% of americans, two-thirds support a pathway to citizenship. 66%. 17% say send illegals back home. 13% want to guest worker program for them. any president, sitting president, particularly a liberal guy is going to say i'm going to drive the train. >> all right. >> here is what -- . >> there is no john mccain is no liberal. >> wait a minute. wait a minute. stop this train. don't forget this was blocked under president bush, a republican this is blocked by a vote, by the far right. >> and far left. >> demonize every immigrant as some kind of threat to america. >> attacks came from both lines and will come from both again. >> bill: let me the source of light herein stead of heat for once. we had very big border security problems now, border security better so the debate in the story can progress.
as far as obama wanting to pass it i'm curious bit. for four years he didn't raise a finger on this and in 2007 he help that had fragile bill at the time. >> bill: right. >> the preacher of the polls he didn't have to run again. fox news poll, 66% of americans, two-thirds support a pathway to citizenship. 66%. 17% say send illegals back home. 13% want to guest worker program for them. any president, sitting president, particularly a liberal guy is going to say i'm going to drive the...
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and then on the political front, president obama's recess appointment to the nlrb declared unconstitutional. and louisiana governor bobby jindal calls republicans the stupid party. how about that? and then there is an unconfirmed scandal. i say unconfirmed. did senator bob menendez sleep with underaged dominican prostitutes? this is "the kudlow report" and we begin right now. >> all right. first up, our most optimistic story tonight, stock continue their bull run, the s&p 500 and dow closing in on their all-time highs from october 2007. brian shactman joins us now with all the details. good evening, brian and good work today. >> you touched on the s&p details having its best streak in terms of winning streaks days in a row in eight years but how about the dow. we're now 105 points shy of 14,000. eight components hit new highs today. beyond the five on your screen, utx, pfizer and p & g also doing it. now, speaking of history, historically life is good, larry, as you well know when the dow transports show leadership, up another 3% for the week. apple used to be leadership but not right now.
and then on the political front, president obama's recess appointment to the nlrb declared unconstitutional. and louisiana governor bobby jindal calls republicans the stupid party. how about that? and then there is an unconfirmed scandal. i say unconfirmed. did senator bob menendez sleep with underaged dominican prostitutes? this is "the kudlow report" and we begin right now. >> all right. first up, our most optimistic story tonight, stock continue their bull run, the s&p...
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the history of assumer and barack obama and durbin is always politics. president didn't fully embrace what the bipartisan group of senators said. why am i suspicious? every time he has an opportunity to exploit it, he does so politically. do you this agree with me, that republicans need to proceed with caution? >> absolutely. there are so many complicated parts to this. even if you had trust with all the partners, you would want to pay a lot of attention to detail. look, the president -- you touched on it earlier. there was an unnecessary threat out of the blue. i was reading the text to the speech, he was outlining what he was sort of proposing which was somewhat in agreement and out of the blue he says if you are unable to move in a timely fashion, i'm going to set up a bill on my proposal and insist that you vote it on. that is typical stuff we see from the white house that is completely unconstructive and undermines trust in the white house. >> sean: two reasons i would like to see a bill happen here. number one, nobody seems to be talking about it,
the history of assumer and barack obama and durbin is always politics. president didn't fully embrace what the bipartisan group of senators said. why am i suspicious? every time he has an opportunity to exploit it, he does so politically. do you this agree with me, that republicans need to proceed with caution? >> absolutely. there are so many complicated parts to this. even if you had trust with all the partners, you would want to pay a lot of attention to detail. look, the president --...
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to make barack obama a one-term president, and now mcconnell finds some tough sledding in his own bid for re-election. a new poll by the louisville carrier journal finds just 17% of kentucky voters, about 1 in 6, plan to support the senator when he runs for re-election. not a good start, mitch. twice as many say they're going to vote against him. again, not a good start, senator. and to make things worse for mcconnell, democratic groups on the left if there are any in kentucky are vowing to work with tea party groups on the right to oust him during the republican party. primary. they're going to double-team this guy. good luck there, mitch. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." anybody who watches "hardball" knows i love politics. another thing i love are movies and tv shows about politics, and i can't remember a time when there were more great films and shows to choose from. look at this. "lincoln," "argo," all on the sbig screen. sitcoms like 1600 penn and dramas like homeland, the president's favorite on tv. what this tells me is i'm not alone. americans are into pol
to make barack obama a one-term president, and now mcconnell finds some tough sledding in his own bid for re-election. a new poll by the louisville carrier journal finds just 17% of kentucky voters, about 1 in 6, plan to support the senator when he runs for re-election. not a good start, mitch. twice as many say they're going to vote against him. again, not a good start, senator. and to make things worse for mcconnell, democratic groups on the left if there are any in kentucky are vowing to...
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it wasn't political. but it appears that obama backed off his specific proposals and is going with a bipartisan group that the bipartisan group obviously did that to head off the president to give some credit to the republicans but then why did the democrats play along with that? >> it looks like reviewing a scooby doo. they did this and they did this and they did this. it's framework. it's not legislation. it's not a bill. they got together and discussed things. then you see this outlier of marco rubio. everyone is trying to stake their ground right now where they want to be in immigration. the president is saying if you don't pass anything, you're going to get me. it's the president that we haven't seen other than as a campaigner. >> cenk: paul, what do you think? is this going to work? are republicans going to get an advantage here or be able to neutralize the advantage that democrats have with the latinos by jumping ahead of the president. >> that's been built up not only the course of weeks or months
it wasn't political. but it appears that obama backed off his specific proposals and is going with a bipartisan group that the bipartisan group obviously did that to head off the president to give some credit to the republicans but then why did the democrats play along with that? >> it looks like reviewing a scooby doo. they did this and they did this and they did this. it's framework. it's not legislation. it's not a bill. they got together and discussed things. then you see this outlier...
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brit hume fox news senior political analyst. jeff zeleny of the new york times. kimberly strassel from the "wall street journal" and fox news political analyst juan william. before we get to the inaugural and the president's agenda for the second term i want to discuss the very important ruling by the circuit court of appeals here in washington, d.c. on friday that the president violated the constitution when made three invalid their words appointments to the nlrb. brit, how big a deal? >> i think it is a very big deal and i think that it going to be a little hard to overcome if the administration decides to appeal it. two reasons. one is the court basically threw out the appointments to the nlrb on two grounds principally. one was and this was a ground breaking ruling that only between sessions of congress when congress isn't in session at all. when one ended and awaiting the start of another one could a recess appointment be made. that is counter to practice that has been going on for a very long time and that ground may not be upheld on appeal. the other groun
brit hume fox news senior political analyst. jeff zeleny of the new york times. kimberly strassel from the "wall street journal" and fox news political analyst juan william. before we get to the inaugural and the president's agenda for the second term i want to discuss the very important ruling by the circuit court of appeals here in washington, d.c. on friday that the president violated the constitution when made three invalid their words appointments to the nlrb. brit, how big a...
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president obama wants gunun safety legislation. house republicans don't like president obama, but house republicans do like police officers. so with that in mind today, president obama invited 13 police chiefs and sheriffs to the white house to discuss gun violence. >> if law enforcement officials who are dealing with this stuff every single day can come to some basic consensus, congress will be paying at attention to them and we'll be able to make progress. >> jennifer: progress that will be novel, but if the senate can move ahead with immigration reform, i say anything is possible. joining me now is democratic strategist donnie fowler. welcome back. >> good to be here. >> jennifer: good policy to have the chiefs and sheriffs come and make the pitch on gun safety. >> there is no more credibility. >> jennifer: i totally agree. >> they are certainly the ones that the american people want to hear from. >> jennifer: the congress can't seem to meet a deadline on fiscal stuff. they have this immigration thing that is teed up. do you thi
president obama wants gunun safety legislation. house republicans don't like president obama, but house republicans do like police officers. so with that in mind today, president obama invited 13 police chiefs and sheriffs to the white house to discuss gun violence. >> if law enforcement officials who are dealing with this stuff every single day can come to some basic consensus, congress will be paying at attention to them and we'll be able to make progress. >> jennifer: progress...
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and cbs political director john dickerson recall last week urging president obama to pulverize the republican party. up next, the department of homeland security looking to acquire thousands of the very same weapons the president is trying to take away from citizens. the "a-team" on double standards and more. the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone likes 50% more... [ midwestern/chicago accent ] cheddar! yeah! 50 percent more [yodeling] yodel-ay-ee-oo. 50% more flash. [ southern accent ] 50 percent more taters. that's where tots come from. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on every purchase plus a 50% annual bonus on the cash you earn. it's the card for people who like more cash. 50% more spy stuff. what's in your wallet? this car is too small. sphere one ♪ lou: joining me now, the "a-team", former ku rational candid it, fox news contributor, pulitzer prize-winning columnist , fox news contributor, democratic strategist. faugh let's start year. the talks earlier, a member of th
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>> it's actually as totally revolutionized political communication. we saw it both in the success of the obama campaign in the fund raising arena and seen it in the ability of people to galvanize around a particular issue. that's what's so important about all of these things, the twitter and facebook. we use it extensively and it's a huge force. >> congressman yarmuth, thanks so much for taking the time. >> thank you, chris. >> as we watch gabby giffords continuing to come in. there is this level of emotion here. and really newtown took it to a level i don't think we've seen before. the parents have a piece in the "washington post," our country needs a new dialogue, one that doesn't follow the tired script of political squabbling. any improvement of our laws should not be decried as an attempt to take away rights. even those who lost the most are suggesting no such thing. >> do we need to see gabby giffords coming in and reminder of these 20 kids? >> apparently we do. there is a strong gun lobby and they oppose these things strongly. >> are they as st
>> it's actually as totally revolutionized political communication. we saw it both in the success of the obama campaign in the fund raising arena and seen it in the ability of people to galvanize around a particular issue. that's what's so important about all of these things, the twitter and facebook. we use it extensively and it's a huge force. >> congressman yarmuth, thanks so much for taking the time. >> thank you, chris. >> as we watch gabby giffords continuing to...
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. >> in many ways this was obama pulling frankly a bill clinton, a politically shrewd move, all about the clintons and hillary ace political future. the joke is whether vice president joe biden has been peeled off the ceiling yet but on what may have been the more interesting obama interview published this weekend, the president talked gun control, the future of both parties and football with the "new republic" as they tried to relaunch. the president acknowledged getting gun control through congress will be tough and said "if you group up and your dad gave you a hunting rifle when you were 10 and you spent the day whim and your uncle and that became part of i don't are family traditions, you can see why you would be protective of that." ask if he ever fired a gun, the president went as far to say up at camp david we do skeet shooting all the time. the president will meet with law enforcement officials across america. it's looking more and more like by the way, that a background check bill is the vehicle that is most likely to get through the senate. on friday oklahoma republican sena
. >> in many ways this was obama pulling frankly a bill clinton, a politically shrewd move, all about the clintons and hillary ace political future. the joke is whether vice president joe biden has been peeled off the ceiling yet but on what may have been the more interesting obama interview published this weekend, the president talked gun control, the future of both parties and football with the "new republic" as they tried to relaunch. the president acknowledged getting gun...
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. >> the political argument that is looking at marco rubio. we know it's the number you see on the screen. obama over romney over latino voters. you have the growing latino areas. i wonder if there is a second argument that republicans are considering or ought to consider. that is how they are toned on this and defined the rhetoric and affects non-latino voters. how much do you think this hurt the republican party's brain that it took this long to get to this point on this issue? >> well, the argument is also that when you want compassionate conservatism, it's not just the target group, but also for john latinos. the fiscal conservative who is may not love or hate latinos, but they cringe at the rhetoric. i agree that this is not just an issue about latinos, but softening the general image of the republican party. it's gone so far to the right with the peak of the 2010 tea party movement, that they try to buff the edges out. >> the first thing is border security. with enforcement promises never materialized, that is untrue. the 2007 bill asked
. >> the political argument that is looking at marco rubio. we know it's the number you see on the screen. obama over romney over latino voters. you have the growing latino areas. i wonder if there is a second argument that republicans are considering or ought to consider. that is how they are toned on this and defined the rhetoric and affects non-latino voters. how much do you think this hurt the republican party's brain that it took this long to get to this point on this issue? >>...
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i mean, she is her own political entity. this is a continuation of clintonism. >> i agree, i thought all the blind quotes sounded to me like joe biden people trying to sound like they could be anyone's people. i don't think if you're hillary clinton there is an issue about a private conversation. if you're hillary clinton and you want to go out there and do it, you will go out there, and crush who is in the primary, joe biden or cuomo, up need to. it seems much more of a joe biden-type argument, saying obviously we'll coordinate and work out. >> karen finney, joe biden is a great vice president, it is a job that is hard to be great at. he has found a way to be great at. is there any way he could be talked into it doing it for 16 years. >> the longest serving vice president in history. >> are you suggesting the joe biden-hillary clinton ticket? i had that thought today. he has actually made the role of vice president in the way i think she has re-made the role of secretary of state. i think the country would do well to have t
i mean, she is her own political entity. this is a continuation of clintonism. >> i agree, i thought all the blind quotes sounded to me like joe biden people trying to sound like they could be anyone's people. i don't think if you're hillary clinton there is an issue about a private conversation. if you're hillary clinton and you want to go out there and do it, you will go out there, and crush who is in the primary, joe biden or cuomo, up need to. it seems much more of a joe biden-type...
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so we in the political commentary didn't think up barack obama. he came to us. i remember saying when i first saw him, just saw your first black president right there. it didn't take much of a genius to figure that out. you saw him and heard him. the immigrant story because of his father being from another part of the world. the phenomenon of reagan, another guy that came out of nowhere, who was laughed at. and did work his way up through the system. the mondales and the doles are never going to be that exciting. even the mccains. the exciting politicians are the ones that come out of nowhere and excite the country. and i think obama and reagan are that way. who would have thought that joe biden could have marshalled a presidential campaign? he's doing it right as we speak. he looked very good yesterday. he's likable. if ""saturday night live"" doesn't destroy him, which they might because they did it to jerry ford, he could make it. in fact, hillary must be thinking -- secretary clinton must be thinking i got to fight joe. they'll be really hating me because ev
so we in the political commentary didn't think up barack obama. he came to us. i remember saying when i first saw him, just saw your first black president right there. it didn't take much of a genius to figure that out. you saw him and heard him. the immigrant story because of his father being from another part of the world. the phenomenon of reagan, another guy that came out of nowhere, who was laughed at. and did work his way up through the system. the mondales and the doles are never going...
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, we speak monolithically about race and racial subgroups in this country, and, yet, we look at the obama coalition, which everybody says it is the sort of american coalition moving forward. you know, to what degree do you think that really changes the racism in near term? we talked about immigration in the last segment, but is this something we're going to start feeling in 2014 and 2016 and 2020, or is this the, like, 25 year change? >> well, i think your blow-up about appropriation, that's something that we're going to see a lot of, right? it's something that's making people both in kind of what's left of there being a dominant culture and in minority communities incredibly uncomfortable. it's a culture that people feel increasingly comfortable pulling in things that used to be off limits in some way. there's a web culture where people are constantly picking things up and remixing them in ways that disturb their elders. i think some people are going to have to get used to. >> that's you embodying that givening the fact that you are able to make an incredible 76-layer nacho dip for -- >>
, we speak monolithically about race and racial subgroups in this country, and, yet, we look at the obama coalition, which everybody says it is the sort of american coalition moving forward. you know, to what degree do you think that really changes the racism in near term? we talked about immigration in the last segment, but is this something we're going to start feeling in 2014 and 2016 and 2020, or is this the, like, 25 year change? >> well, i think your blow-up about appropriation,...
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and cbs political director john dickerson recall last week urging president obama to pulverize the republican party. up next, the department of homeland security looking to acquire thousands of the very same weapons the president is trying to take away from citizens. the "a-team" on double standards and more. officemax knows... ...tax time can be...well...taxing. so right now we'll give u... ...$10 off any turbo tax deluxe level software or higher! find thousands of big deals now... ...at officemax. we replaced people with a machine.r, what? customers didn't like it. so why do banks do it? hello? hello?! if your bank doesn't let you talk to a real person 24/7, you need an ally. hello? ally bank. your money needs an ally. ♪ lou: joining me now, the "a-team", former ku rational candid it, fox news contributor, pulitzer prize-winning columnist , fox news contributor, democratic strategist. faugh let's start year. the talks earlier, a member of the gang of eight, the senators who have put forward a proposal i gather the president. what is the reason for that time in your judgment? >> i think it
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but, we don't agree on a lot of politics. >> all right. so, you guys are, when you talk, man-to-man, you don't have a big fischer. but i'm sure he voted for barack obama. you are not going to vote for barack obama. now, the global warming is his big deal, the environmental stuff. dodo you believe in global warming? do you think it's been caused by carbons and we are the responsibility for this? >> well, when he drives the prius to the challenger, you know, you have got to question a little bit. but, you know, what i believe in is air and clean water and a future for our kids. i don't believe that my ford f-250 is causing global warming. i might get a lot of flack for that but, you know, we can't tax ourselves by going in with things like the deoat that protocol and that kind of stuff. so no, i'm not a believer but i want to make sure that we're still doing the right thing going forward. i just don't like scaring kids and telling them we are cook pg ourself. >> you want clean water and clean air but you are not buying into the fact that the
but, we don't agree on a lot of politics. >> all right. so, you guys are, when you talk, man-to-man, you don't have a big fischer. but i'm sure he voted for barack obama. you are not going to vote for barack obama. now, the global warming is his big deal, the environmental stuff. dodo you believe in global warming? do you think it's been caused by carbons and we are the responsibility for this? >> well, when he drives the prius to the challenger, you know, you have got to question a...
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that's not the way politics works in america. emerged and they're the ones that help shape it. sometimes they do it contrary to expectations. most people thought it would be clinton in 2008 - -a clinton ian formula, but obama did not do it that way. i give him credit for having the courage of his convictions and had a theory of how okey could could win and he did it. i'm not sure bobby jindal's model is the right model for chris christie. -- or chris christie. it is important to take risks to be contrarian and to accept the fact the republican party will have some different voices. there will be people will say this issue is fundamental and others will say we need to compromise on that one and draw the line here. obviously, we still make arguments and tried to persuade people that this is not the right fight to have. but you have to accept it will be a certain amount of disagreement among conservatives and republicans. it's chaos after you lose two presidential elections in a row and that can be healthy. a little creative destruction, creative chaos would not be a bad thing for
that's not the way politics works in america. emerged and they're the ones that help shape it. sometimes they do it contrary to expectations. most people thought it would be clinton in 2008 - -a clinton ian formula, but obama did not do it that way. i give him credit for having the courage of his convictions and had a theory of how okey could could win and he did it. i'm not sure bobby jindal's model is the right model for chris christie. -- or chris christie. it is important to take risks to...